The McKenna brothers — Terence and Dennis — are widely regarded as having paved the gringo road to the Amazonian plant medicine experience. Dennis’ exploration of this territory dates back a half century, and he is among its most knowledgeable cartographers. In this episode, Dennis McKenna and Ken discuss questions that arise when entheogens are an important part of your life: What’s the difference between a plant psychedelic and a chemical? How should you choose a shaman? What role does integration play following a plant medicine journey? Are the entities you encounter under the influence of DMT real? What is actually going on when you trip?

Dennis McKenna is an American ethnopharmacologist, lecturer and author. He is a founding board member and the director of ethnopharmacology at the Heffter Research Institute, a non-profit organization concerned with the investigation of the potential therapeutic uses of psychedelic medicines. He is an adjunct professor in the Center for Spirituality and Healing at the University of Minnesota. McKenna’s research led to the development of natural products for the Aveda Corporation, as well as greater awareness of natural products and medicines more broadly. He has authored or co-authored over 50 peer-reviewed scientific papers and written books, including “The Brotherhood of the Screaming Abyss: My Life with Terence McKenna”, and co-author of “The Invisible Landscape” with his brother Terence. He is also on the advisory board of the Soltara Healing Center in Costa Rica, where he leads retreats.

To learn more about Dennis McKenna and his many projects and events, visit his events page on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dennis.mckenna.94

Ken Jordan

Ken Jordan

Evolver co-founder, host of The Evolver podcast.